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DejanZor

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Help For A New Guy
« on: February 05, 2010, 11:05:15 PM »
Ive been longboarding for 9 months now and im really in too it. I need some tips and i think this is the perfect place to as, so just please answer and tell me how to improve on these

- controling speed

-sliding

-turns at high speeds

-standie slides

- carving

-and fast turns
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 12:42:27 AM »
Well, pretty my best answer is to skate more really. You just get use to all this stuff after a while, but if you really want me to get into more detail:
Controlling speed depends on comfortability on the board you use and the tightness of your trucks (and all that jazz). The question of speed wabble comes up a lot. To avoid it, you pretty much have to not be nervous... Yeah, comfortability on your board is pretty much key.
Sliding, really, you just get use to it after practicing. Buy gloves and keep going around them corners (tips are also a lot easier when we meet at sessions, it's kind of hard to explain over posts). But it kind of sucks because we can't skate either... Oh and different styles of sliding (Like 1 hands, stand ups and what ever way you grab your board) are just learnt after learning how to slide by grabbing your board with one hand, and putting the other on the ground behind you. It's pretty much the basics.
The faster you go, the faster your trucks turn. So if you have your trucks pretty tight for carving, it'll feel like they're looser while going fast. Also good to practice. Oh and really really really really good tip that some guys here gave me and I always need to remember 'cause it's SO help full, is to look where you're going, so like ahead of you in the turn. If you look at the bank or curb or what ever, you'll most likely slide out into it. It's pretty much magic, where ever your eyes go, your board will follow.
Standies are a pain in the ass to learn, but again, it all starts with the basic slide. It's pretty much putting all your pressure on the front foot and the pushing the board with your back foot... in a... motion that... turns your board the other way. But once you make it past 90' (like pretty much the board being horizontal) it's a whole new feeling. Ahhh yeaeaaahh, switch riding. You kind of have to keep pushing that board until it does a complete 180, and the you're fully into switch, which also takes a while to get used to, (I need to work on it SO BAD this year). But yeah, once you get regular 180s, then you work on switch ones, and then toe side ones... or it changes for different people I guess.
Carving is pretty basic... unless you're referring to pumping? Or carving while doin' the cross steps? Pumping is pretty much using the momentum of your body while you carve back and forth, that makes you keep going without needing to push. Your trucks have to be pretty darn loose, and the shorter the board, the easier to pump. It's the same idea as pumping in a bowl, but instead of throwing your momentum vertically, it's more horizontally. I think that makes sense? And then, go check loaded newsletter if you haven't already, on Youtube. It'll teach you ALLLLL about the cross stepping or dancing.... it's dancing on a longboard and it looks cool. But don't think it's easy, It takes a while to get all that balancing out and stuff. Practice.... mmmm.

Yeah, I think that's enough for now. Basically all things come over time... you get use to your boards, and get better balance and just get use to every wonderful thing. It's a beautiful art. too bad there's snow, but then again there's skateboard hockey. Or grandin.

Ok yeah, there you have it.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 01:21:59 PM »
I'll add my few points here:

Controlling speed:  The easiest ways to do this is to either carve off your speed, foot break, or slide.  Foot breaking is probably the first skill you want to have mastered before relying on the other two as it will always be there as a backup and works in 95% of the "Oh SHIT" moments you might come across.  Once you start hitting hills outside Edmonton and go faster speeds air breaking works very well to get you below 50 km/h where the above methods of slowing down are much less sketchy.

Sliding:  The biggest thing you need to remember about sliding is you need to commit to the slide your going to pull 100%.  If you half ass it you'll fail every time.  Like Nico said it's much easier to show the techniques in person than try to explain in writing.

High speed turns:  When your going fast all of your turning is done through subtle leaning on your board side to side.  It's not that your board turns faster when you are going fast, your turning radius never changes it's just the fact you're coving your say 15' turning radius in less than a 1/20th of a second compared to may 1/2 of a second going slow.  I used to tighten the kingpins in my trucks when I'd go fast but I've found switching to a slightly harder set of bushings and keeping the same looseness handles a little nicer.  The biggest thing is to try to everything with as smooth of body movements as you can.

Standup slides:  I havn't invested the time to fully learn these so I can't help ya there.

Carving:  This is pretty much the essence of longboarding.  Find yourself a nice long mellow-ish hill and start linking turns together.  There isn't much you can teach here other than a good stance and foot positioning but if you've been boarding for 9 months I'm sure you've found something you're comfortable with already.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:48 PM »
Thanks Alot- That Really Helped Me Alot- I Wish you could show me in person.Are you gonna be at the psha game on the 14th? And whens the next free ride sesh so you could show me. Its sorta hard to learn things at the sportss world arena uz of the floors. But  i could bring my LY slide gloves and work on slides. I cant wait till winters over so i can actually skate! And also thanks for putting a detailed desription------------------

Dejan (Mustard)
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 09:54:22 PM »
Yeah, sliding in sports world wont be the greatest thing... since sliding it's mostly the wheels releasing from friction on the ground, but there's still friction so you end up stopping if there's no hill. I'll hopefully be at the game, but don't go for hoping to slide with gloves. Just putting that out there.

Although, if you were going to try stand ups, the floor is nice and slippery/good for practice.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 12:45:36 PM »
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 11:09:35 AM »
Ok I now I'm really late on this, but yeah.

Dejan, no write up, advice, video, or piece of gear will make you skateboard better. It will help, but the only way to learn how to control speed, slide, take fast corners, ect. ect. will be by actually hopping onto a board and learning first hand. Kevin Reimer didn't win races by reading an article... he raced, and learnt from actually doing it. So I think it'd be much more helpful if you just started to come to sessions and learnt...

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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 11:55:08 AM »
Kevin, I'm glad you understand and encourage the idea of skating as the best way to learn but to be honest I think it is already understood by most skaters.

Sometimes reading up a little does in fact go a long way, when I started snowboarding last year there were lots of things I didn't understand how to approach and the countless hours on the hill I spent didn't amount to anything until I understood how to go in and apply certain techniques that would make things like spins and rails easier.

There were times when I answered questions like the way you did there but in retrospect I realize that if you have anything meaningful to contribute then go ahead but if the only thing that pops into your head is "go skate" then maybe its best not post at all.

I don't mean to be anal about posting or anything, I just feel that in a grass roots community like 780 we should stay away from that kind of GNAR GNAR attitude that you see so often on Silverfish.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 04:34:27 PM »
Yeah, skating is the way to learn, but a lot of things I'm able to do were from watching videos and getting pointers from folks. If I didn't have any help, I would definitely still be going stink bug all over the place, keep that in mind. You guys probably all started off stinky until someone told you... it was stinky.

And this yeah I got told to look where I want to go, probably the best tip I've ever gotten.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 05:46:12 PM »
Yeah, I guess you two are right. But it would be MUCH easier to learn something if you came to a sesh and had people teach you in person, ect.
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Re: Help For A New Guy
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 04:28:33 PM »
true to nicos point, i stinkbugged till the first time i made an appearance at the shitpins
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